*headdesk*

Friday, December 28th, 2007 06:02 pm
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So I'm watching this documentary called Blood in the Face, about the Klan and other such Neo-Nazis, and...oh, the STUPID. It roasts me.

Hearing these people actually holding forth on their bigoted, moronic ideas is actually kind of enlightening. A couple of years ago I picked up a copy of Mein Kampf, which I wanted to read because I believe in finding things out for myself, and damn but I could not make it past about 15 pages. What a badly written book! I'm not talking about the substance, which is awful enough, but just shitty writing. Still haven't managed to pick it up again.

So actually listening to these people spewing is something of an eye-opener. I mean, what am I supposed to think about somebody who says stuff like, "We want people to know white people are intelligent, and we don't need no porch monkey telling us what to do!" and doesn't get why that's so grotesque? It's bizarre, like I've fallen into some weird-ass wormhole and ended up in an alternate universe. Not because I think humans don't have capacity for awfulness, but just because it's so brain-bendingly STUPID. STUPID STUPID STUPID. And all the shite about ZOG and the Protocols of Zion and miscegenation and "loving your own kind" and sweet Jesus, it goes on and on and on.

But like I said, I'm glad I'm watching it, if for no other reason than hearing their arguments from their own mouths. I'm a great believer in know thine enemy and seeing it yourself. Being informed and all that. And yo, you can never know too much about lunatics like this.

And you know, I sure wish I could be there when they meet up with Jesus. Have they got a surprise coming!!

Still though...ARGH. ARGHARGHARGHARGH. WHY must I share DNA with these yahoos???

Date: Saturday, December 29th, 2007 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celandine-g.livejournal.com
I so agree--ah the tyranny of the mind. The world is so full of mental slaves and people who never thought a thought for themselves in their whole lives.

Look at the Middle East with so many people mindlessly following some idiot who tells them, "let us oppress you now and you'll get your reward after you're dead." I mean, is this not the greatest "con" ever contrived? Or "go kill yourselves now (or other people) and you will live in a paradise of peace (with willing virgins)." Hmmmm, now why should they get a paradise of peace for promoting war and hate--or killing innocent ladies who are trying to be themselves and promote democracy?

Of course, as you are experiencing, the Middle East has no monopoly on stupity--we are not deficent in that comodity, are we?

*runs to find a nice quiet cave (with cable)*

Date: Saturday, December 29th, 2007 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serai1.livejournal.com
No, we're certainly not. Over at Salon.com, I got to applaud a commenter who pointed out that for all our chest-thumping about terrorism abroad and those hateful furriners, we seem to have forgotten that we're quite successful at breeding terrorists right here at home. There is no brand of stupidity and viciousness in the world that we cannot find mirrored in our own backyard.

It's not that they don't think. They just don't know how to think, so their thoughts are all bunged-up and insane. That's what we get when we don't teach our kids logic and science and civics and all those things that go to laying the groundwork for a mind that functions clearly. That line I quoted up there is just a drop in the bucket - that kind of weird paralogia is rampant through every frame of this thing. And the filmmakers handled it very cleverly by not laying any narration or anything else over the footage. It's just the loonies speaking for themselves, and they damn themselves happily, with pride.

It's the final irony that creatures like this don't believe in evolution, because what with their turd-flinging, territorial displays, and fear of The Other, they come off like nothing so much as a pack of frigging monkeys. Darwin would feel mightily vindicated watching this film.

Date: Saturday, December 29th, 2007 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celandine-g.livejournal.com
I often have to laugh when I hear people comment on one country or another in the Middle East a being a "terrorist nation." LOL We are the biggest terrorist nation on the planet by orders of magnitude.

If any other country had done what we did in Iraq and then bungled it so spectacularly and with such a continuing, unashamed display of greed and entitlement that the world has never rarely seldom occasionally quite often, actually, (dammit!) seen--all these so-called American patriots would have been horrified and screaming for their demise.

Yet when we act like terrorists, it's: oh, well we are going in there to "help" or to save the world from "those terrible dictators."

The self-deception boggles the mind. Truly. But then again, most of them voted for Bush and that has got to be the pinnacle of self-deception. I suppose that the Romans and the Nazis and other citizens of hundreds of countries who support(ed) terrorism against the less powerful were equally self-deceptive.

*wanders around aimlessly looking for self deception that bloody cave*

Date: Sunday, December 30th, 2007 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myladylyssa.livejournal.com
*bangs head on desk*

I wonder if I could even sit through such a documentary without bursting all the blood vessels in my head. People like that just boil my blood! I would have to be sedated first, or be in a room with sane-minded people for support.

*shares in your ARGHing*

*hugs!*

Date: Sunday, December 30th, 2007 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serai1.livejournal.com
It took me a whole day to actually see it. I kept having to pause the file and go do something else just to give my poor sobbing brain a rest. Took about 4 hours to convince myself to watch the last quarter of it. I was glad I did, because the film ended on a very interesting moment. In all, an excellent documentary, but....AAAAAIIIEEEARGHARGHARGH.

My mom talks about how Muslin extremists scare her, and I always answer that there's just as bad if not worse right here in America; she just doesn't know about it because she gets her news from the telly, and they almost never talk about this kind of crap. After Dave Berg, I'm not surprised; criticizing these troglodytes could get a reporter killed.

*hugs back*

Date: Saturday, January 19th, 2008 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgirlsf.livejournal.com
I actually got dragged to a white power rally once as a child. My family had just moved to Texas for work and my Dad's coworker invited us to a "barbeque", which turned out to be a festive little gathering complete with live music, bunting and neo-Nazis. It was the most terrifying thing I've ever witnessed, mostly because of the sheer banality of the whole thing. People took their kids, like it was a county fair. It was like the Two Minute Hate from 1984 with beer and brisket. Horrifying.

I grew up in the Middle East - Libya and Saudi Arabia - and never once, even during the era where Reagan and Gadafi were having a pissing contest, was I as frightened as I was on that day in Texas. America is not a terrorist state my ass.

Date: Saturday, January 19th, 2008 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serai1.livejournal.com
Oh friggin' HELL. That must have been hair-raising. There's very little as frightening as this kind of deeply ingrained ignorance.

And most of them claim to be Christians. *sigh* Poor Jesus. What did he ever do to deserve fans like that?

Date: Saturday, January 19th, 2008 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgirlsf.livejournal.com
It really was. By the time we got back to the car we were all shaking, even my macho Dad. It was how casual they all were about it that horrified me - the guy who invited my Dad just assumed that because we were white people we would agree with all that crap. What kind of upbringing does it take to make a person that confident that everyone shares their messed up way of looking at the world?

I'm not Christian, or religious at all, but I suspect that historical figure Jesus wouldn't like a lot of his followers very much. They do seem to have missed the point quite spectacularly.

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