Whoooaaa, hold on a sec there, Sparky

[serai]

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Here's something interesting.

Deadline issued to produce documents for LOTR trial

The whole thing's proceeding as trials do, but here is the part that caught my eye:


Trust attorneys maintain "The Two Towers" incorporates portions and scenes taken from other Tolkien books. The film company lawyers maintain they need to know how that claim is supported so they can prepare their defense.


Wait...WHAT?? Scenes from other Tolkien books? What scenes from other Tolkien books? Sure, PJ & Co. moved things around and added here and there in order to shape the story to the ends of their film, but...WHAT??

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty damn familiar with the legendarium, and I didn't recognize anything from other books in there. In fact, as I understand it, they bent over backwards not to include stuff from any of the other books, since they already knew going in what pricks the Tokien Trust are about this stuff.

Also, I heard just about EVERY DAMN ARGUMENT from the most purist, obsessed fans about every single frame of film in 2T, and this is one criticism I never heard. And if there's a group of people who would definitely know if something had been imported from another book, it's that bunch of sphincterheads.


So, let's hear it. Looking back on The Two Towers, do any of you recognize anything from any other Tolkien book in it? Something that's not from either the main text or the appendices to LOTR?

Comments

[elderberrywine.livejournal.com]

Heh - well, sure it is - from The Return of the King, which technically, the way it was originally published, is another book.

But other than that, they're off their meds.

[ghyste.livejournal.com]

As far as I can recall, all of the non-TTT stuff in TTT was either taken from one of the other parts of the Trilogy/The Appendices or invented from whole cloth. I'm baffled as to what else they think's in there.

[estelanui.livejournal.com]

"The Two Towers" incorporates portions and scenes taken from other Tolkien books.

I don't know what it means. I remember all TTT scenes were from LOTR books.
But, there is the Elves arriving to Helm's Deep. May this episode be part of one of the HoME books?

[el-wing.livejournal.com]

Nope, I've never noticed anything from any of his other works, and I've read them all multiple times (and discussed them to the extreme).

[fantasy-fan.livejournal.com]

The only thing I can think of, and this is a real stretch, is Eowyn's dream of the wave overtaking Numenor. That would be Silmarillion, except for the fact that it was stolen from Faramir's comment in ROTK, and therefore shouldn't count against them.

[claudia603.livejournal.com]

OH for crying out loud. :(